A few weeks ago Mr. Vanilla and I were in the car and, being the upwardly mobile and white liberals that we are, we had on NPR. In particular, This American Life. Even more in particular, this episode about the cultural acceptance of infidelity.
Anyone that follows my Twitter knows how I feel about cheating in relationships. I don’t have a lot of sympathy for any of the parties involved. I’m particularly annoyed with sex bloggers that merrily write about cheating with the expectation that as long as they are fucking, the audience will continue to pat them on the ass and tell them how hot they are. My personal standards for honesty in relationships are pretty intense. Fuck, I’m even on record about this.
For me, infidelity is taking an action or having a feeling that I think my partner would want to know but that I’m not telling him for some reason. I used to say that I ‘don’t do anything I wouldn’t want him sitting next to me while I’m doing,’ but I think that is pretty reductive and too prone to literal interpretation. Instead, any sort of keeping secrets feels like infidelity to me.
[Aside: I just quoted part of an article from Violet Blue where she quotes me. . . on my own blog. This post should implode now in a self-congratulatory wank-fest. But I'll persist.]
So, as Mr. Vanilla [since I'm already on a roll with asides, he really needs another name] and I listened to this story my first interest was sort of academic. I thought about my opinions about cheating and at one point nearly blurted out, “God, I fucking hate people that brag about this shit.”
Then I remembered who I was sitting next to. Mr. Vanilla cheated on his ex-wife. He feels like crap about it, he doesn’t justify it with excuses or think that it deserves accolades. Still, he was a cheater. And, some (who operate in the “once a. . . always a. . .” school) would say that he still is.
I contained my outburst and we were quietly listening and driving for a few minutes before I reached for the dial, blocked out Ira Glass and his ilk, and said, “well, that is sort of awkward.”
While infidelity is still an issue in polyamorous relationships, it tends to be less of one because there is less of an incentive or necessity to cheat in most of those arrangements. I’ve been poly for awhile now I’m newly (and quite happily) monogamous. Since I am coming from this other framework, for me the logical solution to having a longing for another partner is to discuss it and potentially change the organization of the relationship. For many people that are monogamous by default, it is to cheat.
Mr. Vanilla and I returned to the topic of the NPR report a few hours later when I reminded him that my monogamy was my choice and that I didn’t make it to restrict him. He re-affirmed his own decision to be monogamous with me. I told him that I hoped he would discuss it with me if he started to have any doubts and that I trusted him.
Fast forward a few days and he is visibly distraught before me after a harrowing conversation with his ex-wife that included a rehashing of his own infidelity. This reminder from a person he wronged of the pain that he caused her was causing him significant guilt and pain. What’s more it was laid bare to me because it interlaced with his fear of making the same mistakes again. Because I love him, every bit of me wanted to take on his pain as if it were my own, grant him absolution, tell him that he didn’t deserve to feel guilty. But I didn’t because it wasn’t true and it isn’t my forgiveness to grant.
What I could give him was the gift of my trust. And in this moment of seeing a person I love deeply at a low of self-doubt, I recognized that it was a very small consolation. But, despite his past mistakes I could look at him before me with compassion and love and know that I trusted him to act in ways that would not harm me. It was a trust that he earned through his actions and displayed character and that he knows all too well that he could lose. But ultimately, I believe in him and his goodness and I believe in my own ability to bestow my trust and love where I see fit.


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5 Responses for "Dating a (reformed) cheater"
Reminds me of a lot of conversations I’ve had with a friend of mine. He doesn’t particularly think cheating on his wife would be the worst thing that could happen. In fact he seems to think it is inevitable. At the same time my ideas on poly completely baffle him.
He even said he sort of expects that his wife will cheat on him, but would never want to know about it. I found that mind boggling.
Then again it seems like a lot of my “vanilla” friends do a lot of the same things I do but don’t have fancy names for it and don’t ever discuss it. Makes me think we are less kinky and more simply verbose. Not that being verbose, in this case, is a bad thing. I think of myself more of a sexual critic.
Yes I definitely agree with you. I think it is more of a cool factor than anything else, especially for guys. I think there is a portion of men who just go along with the conversations so they don’t seem like “pussies” and act like they support infidelity. When in reality they are very happy being one women men. I do on the other hand think it is ok to have an openly sexual relationship if that’s the honest choice of both parties involved. But personally when I am in a relationship I like to to keep it to one person, it’s less complicated that way. Great post BTW! How long have you been running this site? I just started mine, let me know if you have any tips. :)
I have an issue with a lot of poly lit being evangelistic, and sort of glossing over the bad parts, and sometimes having a holier-than-thou attitude towards monos, which creates a poly ghetto of sorts.
“Since I am coming from this other framework, for me the logical solution to having a longing for another partner is to discuss it and potentially change the organization of the relationship. For many people that are monogamous by default, it is to cheat.”
This is why it’s very important for polys to write about their experiences, and honestly. It’s a nontraditional mode of living/loving, there isn’t a whole lot in the way of documentation or guidelines. (Although you just *know* it’s been around forever in some form… A few weeks ago, I came across the term “wittold” as a synonym for “cuckold,” but it’s slightly different, implying a man who *wittingly* allows his wife to have relations with other men.)
So anyway, polyamory is an experiment. An experiment is only useful (to others) if a) the conditions are thoroughly documented and b) it’s reproducible.
Reproducibility is the key. Maybe less people would cheat if they knew open negotiation was actually a thing they could do, but they are going to need *trustworthy* firsthand accounts.
This is a very roundabout way of saying I’m a fan.
Make that “wittol”
lovely Lumie:) you always stir passions and colors in me,, miss you
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