A lot of people have been telling me that they are disappointed to see the lack of response these interviews on masculinity are getting. I am a bit sad about it too but I also don’t care. I have more of them and I’m going to keep posting them because they matter. Like, they really matter.
This next interview is from Wanton Male who is a bisexual blogger. He has been writing about sex online for a long time and I’m thrilled and honored that he took the time to respond to my questions. His responses reflect some of the same trepidation and confusion about masculinity that all of the men so far have expressed.
When was the first time you remember being aware of masculinity? How old were you? What was the cultural climate or influence?
This is a tough one for my shoddy memory. I can’t conciously remember an exact moment. I guess I grew up in a fairly typical, nuclear family, my father being my role model in that regard. Dad was in charge, fixed things around the house, mowed the yard, played sports and whatnot.
As far as noting the differences between the sexes, I noticed how my parents were different and certainly played my fair share of “show me yours, I’ll show you mine” throughout my youth with both girls and boys. Funnily enough, I’m still playing that game.
I grew up in the 70s and was a service brat. My father was an officer and pilot in the Air Force, so certainly some influences there. That certainly added to my observations of masculinity, as I was exposed to a healthier than average dose of discipline and structure. Plus, my dad flew planes, how manly is that?
Do you think of yourself as masculine? Why or why not?
My first inclination is to waffle, and say, yes and no. However, if forced to choose one, AND be honest, I have to say no.
One of the main aspects of masculinity, in my mind at least, is the physicality of it. I’ve never been a big guy. I’m average height and have always been towards the skinny side, even in my younger days. Back then though, I would have said yes. I was smallish, but I was resilient, I was scrappy. These days I am shell of that.
For the last 15 years I have been fighting severe rheumatoid arthritis. I’ve had multiple operations replacing joints that have been destroyed by my disease. I won’t say I am frail, but I am certainly weakened, and most definitely limited in what I can do physically. So in that regard, it has definitely been emasculating.
Emotionally, I probably lean towards feminine. It’s cliche, but I am in touch with my feelings, and don’t run screaming from them. Not exactly masculine there. I’m kind, nice, empathetic, and I enjoy talking, all of which makes me very popular with women. I make a great girlfriend apparently.
Which leads me to sexually. I am incredibly sexual. I may be chatting sweetly with the ladies but I am thinking about how I could be fucking them. My sex drive is high, and usually stays there. I fully fit the bill of masculinity here.
There are myriad other things where I am masculine. Intellectually I’m logical, practical, and rational. I can be aggressive, dominating and demanding. I’m not the breadwinner of our household, but I do make the majority of the decisions.
So there we go. I am a conflicting and chaotic example of masculinity. Certainly no poster child for it.
How does your masculinity relate to your sexuality (be it your orientation, preferences, or expressions)?
I honestly don’t know. I am bisexual with limited experience on the bi side. I actually kinda just like thinking of myself as just really sexual and a sensualist. I wanna have fun, and I’m not particular with which side of the fence it is.
In bed with women, I tend to take a laid back, have fun attitude, unless I am purposefully being aggressive. Except when it comes to pleasing her. I damn well want her to come, and as many times as possible, but is that related to masculinity? Beats me.
Interestingly enough, with men, so far at least, I seem to be the top. Which honestly is not, how I figured it would be. Will this change as I have more experiences, I cannot say, but I’m not bothered with it either way. I’m just looking for a good time.


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8 Responses for "Musings on Masculinity: Wanton Male"
I make a great girlfriend apparently.
Love it! I get that too.
I may be chatting sweetly with the ladies but I am thinking about how I could be fucking them.
Yeah, that’s me too, which means that when I get the “great girlfriend” comment I’m immediately asking myself, “Now, how is she defining girlfriend.” And I have to wonder if thinking that means that I’d lose the status I was just given.
My first inclination is to waffle, and say, yes and no. However, if forced to choose one, AND be honest, I have to say no.
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There are myriad other things where I am masculine.
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His responses reflect some of the same trepidation and confusion about masculinity that all of the men so far have expressed.
I think this points to two very important things. The first is that one aspect of masculinity is that masculinity isn’t questioned. If you question it, then you’re not it. That means that anyone who asks “Am I am real man?” must almost necessarily answer “No.” So the people answering these questions will most likely have that trepidation. (Guys, if I’m just projecting here, please let me know.)
Second is that masculinity defines itself out of existence. It’s an unreachable goal. Masculinity as a whole (as in “Do you think of yourself as masculine?”) is binary. If you’re not all in, then you’re not in at all. And since no one can be everything that is part of masculinity, then by definition they fall outside it.
Please keep posting, Ellie. I’m loving this. I hope other people join in the discussion.
I agree with both of you. I’ve yet to write and post my answers, but it seems like we will all echo one another.
Gabe, I think you have it exactly right when it comes to the question “Am I a real man?” anyone asking the question by default understands that it’s an ideal just like a feminine ideal. What’s really interesting to me is how many people would look at us in real life or from only what we write online and tell us that we’re paragons of masculinity.
Okay, I’ll save the rest for when I post my own response.
BTW Ellie, you’re right that it doesn’t matter if this is getting a lot of responses in comment form. Since it’s not a matter to judge or critique that means that 90% of the people who would normally comment just go silent. It’s a very heavy and personal topic.
Thanks again NarrationByD, Gabe, Wanton Male, and Anonymous for your openness and honesty.
This is a brilliant observation, Gabe, and probably part of why I, on the female side of the aisle, have such a fraught relationship with the word “butch.” Because whenever I try to find a word for the way I am, that word comes to mind and then immediately my mind goes “Yeah, but you own one dress.” Or “Yeah, but you don’t make conscious effort to be read as masculine every day.” Or “Yeah, but you don’t get into brawls.” On and on with silly stereotypical shit I’m sure the vast majority of the butches I actually know would want to smack me for thinking.
And I think the reason why is what you say about masculinity as something you are or you aren’t. It’s either something you project all the time, a mystique about you, something everyone immediately sees, or you’re not it.
And Ellie, please keep posting these. I’m reading, but I wasn’t commenting, because I wasn’t sure how to answer stuff that’s so personal. I’d start to wonder what everything means, and I wouldn’t want to remark on that in a way that sounds like I’m arguing or invalidating, so I’ve been pretty much silent.
I am so glad to see this conversation going. I definitely didn’t mean to beg for comments but if it works. . . ;)
I do know that these are personal and I am glad that everyone’s voice is being respected and acknowledged. Once the entire series of interviews has run, I intend on trying to extrapolate *something* from them. Maybe others will take these documents as primary materials and try to draw conclusions from them as well.
Yes, Ellie, that’s our cue to at least chime in and say how much we, the quiet audience, are enjoying these. It’s really so awesome and personal, all the guys sharing like this. Thank you to everyone who is participating. I’m reading eagerly.
Ellie,
How often are you posting these? Once a week?
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