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		<title>By: Preston</title>
		<link>http://www.lumpesse.com/2006/02/sex-in-libraries-an-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-1272</link>
		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came to this post thinking someone had finally written a tutorial based on my eccentric fantasy life. Alas.

Filtering and censoring software is, as you know, not particularly intelligent. It took a lot of knocks in the late nineties, when a number of popular news vendors featured articles in which teenagers easily by-passed such software, or which non-objectionable content was filtered but objectionable content was left intact. I remember, for example, a filtering software package that held a stranglehold on one&#039;s entire operating system - it censored everything from web traffic to what you wrote in Microsoft Word. This was really annoying - you&#039;d get as far as &quot;fuc&quot; and suddenly what you were writing would convert to &quot;f***&quot;.  The funny thing, though, was that it left racial slurs untouched.

So, while filtering software will catch a big hunk of objectionable material, a significant portion will still make its way through - institutions with public terminals, such as libraries, rely on social pressure (the fact that it&#039;s a public terminal) to take up the slack. The software knows if a site is on its filtering list or not - &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; know if the site is dirty. It&#039;s a pretty theory, but in practice it&#039;s messy.

Do remember, as you venture off into this experiment, that the Patriot Act is about to be renewed - don&#039;t test those filters too hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to this post thinking someone had finally written a tutorial based on my eccentric fantasy life. Alas.</p>
<p>Filtering and censoring software is, as you know, not particularly intelligent. It took a lot of knocks in the late nineties, when a number of popular news vendors featured articles in which teenagers easily by-passed such software, or which non-objectionable content was filtered but objectionable content was left intact. I remember, for example, a filtering software package that held a stranglehold on one&#8217;s entire operating system &#8211; it censored everything from web traffic to what you wrote in Microsoft Word. This was really annoying &#8211; you&#8217;d get as far as &#8220;fuc&#8221; and suddenly what you were writing would convert to &#8220;f***&#8221;.  The funny thing, though, was that it left racial slurs untouched.</p>
<p>So, while filtering software will catch a big hunk of objectionable material, a significant portion will still make its way through &#8211; institutions with public terminals, such as libraries, rely on social pressure (the fact that it&#8217;s a public terminal) to take up the slack. The software knows if a site is on its filtering list or not &#8211; <em>you</em> know if the site is dirty. It&#8217;s a pretty theory, but in practice it&#8217;s messy.</p>
<p>Do remember, as you venture off into this experiment, that the Patriot Act is about to be renewed &#8211; don&#8217;t test those filters too hard.</p>
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		<title>By: secondary librarian</title>
		<link>http://www.lumpesse.com/2006/02/sex-in-libraries-an-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-1076</link>
		<dc:creator>secondary librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more critical concern (IMHO) is access to hate speech by children, rather than porn. 

Additionaly, there is a difference between the school setting where the librarian is acting &quot;in loco parentis&quot; in place of the parent and the public library where no such legal requirement (but perhaps a societal expectation)exists.

I would be curious to see what your conclusions are following the experiment. As I am sure you are aware there are volumes of research concerning the &quot;filtering issue&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more critical concern (IMHO) is access to hate speech by children, rather than porn.</p>
<p>Additionaly, there is a difference between the school setting where the librarian is acting &#8220;in loco parentis&#8221; in place of the parent and the public library where no such legal requirement (but perhaps a societal expectation)exists.</p>
<p>I would be curious to see what your conclusions are following the experiment. As I am sure you are aware there are volumes of research concerning the &#8220;filtering issue&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Marika Exposed &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm 22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marika Exposed &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm 22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eternal Apprentice :: Sugasm #22 :: February :: 2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eternal Apprentice :: Sugasm #22 :: February :: 2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lumpesse &#187; Sugasm #22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lumpesse &#187; Sugasm #22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eternal Apprentice :: :: February :: 2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eternal Apprentice :: :: February :: 2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Talking Dirty &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm #22</title>
		<link>http://www.lumpesse.com/2006/02/sex-in-libraries-an-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-1017</link>
		<dc:creator>Talking Dirty &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm #22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RA</title>
		<link>http://www.lumpesse.com/2006/02/sex-in-libraries-an-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-1015</link>
		<dc:creator>RA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in a library, but IT, not a librarian.  We only filtered quite recently, as in the last couple of months, after the local rag ran a headline along the lines of &#039;OMG PUBLIC INTARWEB PR0N SHOCKER LOL.&#039;  Many of &#039;us&#039; (librarians included) were quite shitty about the censorship implications.  It was a directive from the top of the tree after the press kerfuffle.

Our filter uses a database, not really anything that resembles &#039;smart&#039; filtering.  so I could post naughty on my site - which doesn&#039;t exist in our filter&#039;s database - and hit it ALL NIGHT LONG.  It might turn up in the filter sometime.  My god it&#039;s crap.

That said, I heartily approve of blocking spyware sites and so on, from a don&#039;t-bugger-the-infrastructure perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in a library, but IT, not a librarian.  We only filtered quite recently, as in the last couple of months, after the local rag ran a headline along the lines of &#8216;OMG <span class="caps">PUBLIC INTARWEB PR0N SHOCKER LOL</span>.&#8217;  Many of &#8216;us&#8217; (librarians included) were quite shitty about the censorship implications.  It was a directive from the top of the tree after the press kerfuffle.</p>
<p>Our filter uses a database, not really anything that resembles &#8216;smart&#8217; filtering.  so I could post naughty on my site &#8211; which doesn&#8217;t exist in our filter&#8217;s database &#8211; and hit it <span class="caps">ALL NIGHT LONG</span>.  It might turn up in the filter sometime.  My god it&#8217;s crap.</p>
<p>That said, I heartily approve of blocking spyware sites and so on, from a don&#8217;t-bugger-the-infrastructure perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Radical Vixen &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm #22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radical Vixen &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm #22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 02:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hack the Brain &#187; Sugasm #22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hack the Brain &#187; Sugasm #22</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: SugarJoy: Sex + Games &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm #22</title>
		<link>http://www.lumpesse.com/2006/02/sex-in-libraries-an-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>SugarJoy: Sex + Games &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm #22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 01:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Sibley</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sibley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I used to work in a library, the swimsuit issue was always a huge problem - it&#039;d be stolen within 5 minutes of putting it out, and a lot of people wanted to read it! We bought lots of extra copies.

&lt;em&gt;Yeah, the chance of theft seems like the only reason to treat it specially at all.  But since it is just a magazine, it makes sense to just order some extra copies. - ellie&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I used to work in a library, the swimsuit issue was always a huge problem &#8211; it&#8217;d be stolen within 5 minutes of putting it out, and a lot of people wanted to read it! We bought lots of extra copies.</p>
<p><em>Yeah, the chance of theft seems like the only reason to treat it specially at all.  But since it is just a magazine, it makes sense to just order some extra copies. &#8211; ellie</em></p>
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		<title>By: MsKitka.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm #22</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsKitka.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm #22</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Sabrina in Stockings &#187; Sugasm #22 - smartass switch in stockings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabrina in Stockings &#187; Sugasm #22 - smartass switch in stockings</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Figleaf's Real Adult Sex</title>
		<link>http://www.lumpesse.com/2006/02/sex-in-libraries-an-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-990</link>
		<dc:creator>Figleaf's Real Adult Sex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 23:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sugasm #22: All for you&lt;/strong&gt;

The best of the blogs by the bloggers who blog them, this week starting with the letter &#8220;Q&#8221;. Queens and Holy Bitches (deltaofvenus.blogspot.com&#8230;) Removal Procedures (alwaysarousedgirl.blogspot.com&#8230;) The Seduction (barelace.blogs...</description>
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<p>The best of the blogs by the bloggers who blog them, this week starting with the letter &#8220;Q&#8221;. Queens and Holy Bitches (deltaofvenus.blogspot.com&#8230;) Removal Procedures (alwaysarousedgirl.blogspot.com&#8230;) The Seduction (barelace.blogs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SugarBank: Sex + Commerce &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm #22</title>
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		<dc:creator>SugarBank: Sex + Commerce &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm #22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sugasm: Where Sex-Bloggers Come Together &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm #22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sugasm: Where Sex-Bloggers Come Together &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sugasm #22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sabrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 03:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see why SugarBank was blocked and Lumpesse.com wasn&#039;t: Two reasons. First, SugarBank&#039;s recently rated with ICRA, which feeds data to filtering software, while I&#039;m gathering your blog isn&#039;t; second, it&#039;s got more porn-related linkage and was more likely to be precategorized.

You should check out Peacefire.org, if you haven&#039;t already. Bennett&#039;s been covering the filtering issue since I&#039;ve been online and has documented many of the flaws in the systems, including known filtering of &quot;clean&quot; sites, including non-porn related but &quot;controversial&quot; topics such as Wicca, and exemption of very sexual materials. The technology is bad, has been for years, and the companies are not properly addressing the issue.

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the link, I have it bookmarked.  As for the reasons for Sugarbank being filtered, the second is quite possibly true.  But, I ran into filter problems at the library months ago (well before the ICRA listing.)  Either way, it proves that the filters don&#039;t work. - ellie&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see why SugarBank was blocked and Lumpesse.com wasn&#8217;t: Two reasons. First, SugarBank&#8217;s recently rated with <span class="caps">ICRA</span>, which feeds data to filtering software, while I&#8217;m gathering your blog isn&#8217;t; second, it&#8217;s got more porn-related linkage and was more likely to be precategorized.</p>
<p>You should check out Peacefire.org, if you haven&#8217;t already. Bennett&#8217;s been covering the filtering issue since I&#8217;ve been online and has documented many of the flaws in the systems, including known filtering of &#8220;clean&#8221; sites, including non-porn related but &#8220;controversial&#8221; topics such as Wicca, and exemption of very sexual materials. The technology is bad, has been for years, and the companies are not properly addressing the issue.</p>
<p><em>Thanks for the link, I have it bookmarked.  As for the reasons for Sugarbank being filtered, the second is quite possibly true.  But, I ran into filter problems at the library months ago (well before the <span class="caps">ICRA</span> listing.)  Either way, it proves that the filters don&#8217;t work. &#8211; ellie</em></p>
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		<title>By: Rachelle</title>
		<link>http://www.lumpesse.com/2006/02/sex-in-libraries-an-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My six-foot tall, purple-haired and pierced lesbian best-friend-from-childhood is a librarian in Tennessee.  She&#039;s not a prude.  However, most of the blue-haired older ladies she works with are.  I think librarians of the past turned to books as a refuge from life, gaining comfort in the order of the dewey decimal system, and  tend to lean towards the prudish.  But I like to hope that the younger generations of librarians are turning to books to expand their lives, gaining knowledge in the exploration of new ideas, and tend to be a little more open.  

Or maybe that&#039;s just my dream for hot, young librarians everywhere...

&lt;em&gt;I think you are right and that the younger generation is pretty different.  Hell, I&#039;m not even saying that the older generation are prudes.  It seems that most librarians, though, are caving to certain pressures in their communities about sex.  I just don&#039;t know when porn became the biggest menace to libraries! - ellie&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My six-foot tall, purple-haired and pierced lesbian best-friend-from-childhood is a librarian in Tennessee.  She&#8217;s not a prude.  However, most of the blue-haired older ladies she works with are.  I think librarians of the past turned to books as a refuge from life, gaining comfort in the order of the dewey decimal system, and  tend to lean towards the prudish.  But I like to hope that the younger generations of librarians are turning to books to expand their lives, gaining knowledge in the exploration of new ideas, and tend to be a little more open.</p>
<p>Or maybe that&#8217;s just my dream for hot, young librarians everywhere&#8230;</p>
<p><em>I think you are right and that the younger generation is pretty different.  Hell, I&#8217;m not even saying that the older generation are prudes.  It seems that most librarians, though, are caving to certain pressures in their communities about sex.  I just don&#8217;t know when porn became the biggest menace to libraries! &#8211; ellie</em></p>
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